DJ Dangerous Posted February 10 Posted February 10 So, following on from these posts over the past few months, scattered throughout the forum, it's time to start a thread on the new 071's. According to @DonderBlitzen, they are definitely due in freight grey, and according to @Noel, as well as IR, both NIR blue AND freight grey are definites. Definitely in stock with IRM and Mark's Models by the end of 2024 according to @Noel, who got the info direct from Murphy Models. IRM opened pre-orders for the 141's / 181's on August 15th, and they're due pretty soon, so it's probably fair to say six or seven months from Expression Of Interest pre-orders to delivery. I know that the immediate reaction was that there's no need for 071's, but I feel that they will sell well. Links to the various posts, hopefully in chronological order - maybe @BosKonay could copy the relative posts into this thread, also leaving them in their original threads? https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/12383-new-murphy-models-141s/page/5/#comment-213276 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/12383-new-murphy-models-141s/page/5/#comment-213287 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/14875-south-dublin-model-railway-exhibition-2023-list-of-exhibitors-and-traders/#comment-217041 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/14875-south-dublin-model-railway-exhibition-2023-list-of-exhibitors-and-traders/#comment-217059 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/14875-south-dublin-model-railway-exhibition-2023-list-of-exhibitors-and-traders/page/2/#comment-217245 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/15308-2024-irish-model-speculation-thread/#comment-221361 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/14004-ebay-watch/page/75/#comment-224643 https://irishrailwaymodeller.com/topic/14004-ebay-watch/page/75/#comment-224821 Given the prices that the 071's currently fetch second-hand on eBay, and I put my hand up and admit that I bought a few for far more than they were worth, myself, it will be a relief for anybody who missed out. Since they're probably pretty far along - they'd have to be if delivery is due this year - does anybody know the actual pricing or what the decoder access will be like? 1 Quote
DJ Dangerous Posted February 14 Author Posted February 14 Going back to the new run of 071's, does anybody know which NIR liveries will be reproduced? There were quite a variety, and it would be nice to see a 1990's livery, which was missing from the original run, a deep blue with red / faded red warning panel, and a version as they run today. I'm assuming that the livery application is not yet finalised but the tooling, ie marker lights, probably would be? 1 Quote
MOGUL Posted February 14 Posted February 14 Spoke to Paddy today, current reckoning is Q4 2024 best case but more likely they will be ready in the run up to CNY 2025.. forgot to ask about liveries! 3 1 Quote
derek Posted February 14 Posted February 14 2 hours ago, MOGUL said: Spoke to Paddy today, current reckoning is Q4 2024 best case but more likely they will be ready in the run up to CNY 2025.. forgot to ask about liveries! CNY? What is that then? I probably should know.......... 2 Quote
Georgeconna Posted February 14 Posted February 14 13 hours ago, derek said: CNY? What is that then? I probably should know.......... Chinese new year 3 1 Quote
Westcorkrailway Posted February 15 Posted February 15 Its fair to say, based on what has been going on in the past number of years not to just assume that 071s are coming in 2024....it would be more likely that they will come much later. not being pessimistic but remember the 141s which are only due now were supposed to have been release as early as 2021(?) 1 Quote
DJ Dangerous Posted February 15 Author Posted February 15 11 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Its fair to say, based on what has been going on in the past number of years not to just assume that 071s are coming in 2024....it would be more likely that they will come much later. not being pessimistic but remember the 141s which are only due now were supposed to have been release as early as 2021(?) Maaaaaybe re-read the thread again. Both @Noel and @MOGUL confirm that they have spoken with Murphy Models and Paddy Murphy, respectively. 19 hours ago, Georgeconna said: Chinese new year Don't be lying to the youngsters, @Georgeconna. It stands for "Crikey, Not Yet"... 1 1 Quote
Westcorkrailway Posted February 15 Posted February 15 47 minutes ago, DJ Dangerous said: Maaaaaybe re-read the thread again. Both @Noel and @MOGUL confirm that they have spoken with Murphy Models and Paddy Murphy, respectively. I haven’t gotten info direct from murphy before but I don’t think any initial time given to the release date to a mode have been forfilled. even MM can’t prevent delays! 1 Quote
derek Posted February 15 Posted February 15 23 hours ago, Georgeconna said: Chinese new year Thanks George. Should have engaged my brain before asking the question......... Quote
DJ Dangerous Posted February 17 Author Posted February 17 On 15/2/2024 at 4:24 PM, Westcorkrailway said: I haven’t gotten info direct from murphy before but I don’t think any initial time given to the release date to a mode have been forfilled. even MM can’t prevent delays! I'm still struggling to get my head around your two posts, here, but I THINK that you're trying to say: "Whenever Paddy Murphy himself announces an estimated arrival for the new 071's, he will still be subject to external factors that may affect delivery." But, Paddy hasn't even announced them, yet, never mind given a lead time. We have livery information from two members who received it from Paddy Murphy and from Murphy Models. We have an estimated delivery of late 2024 / early 2025 from two members, again who received the info from Murphy Models and from Paddy Murphy. If Paddy is telling people that, it is fair to assume that he's likely to be more or less on the mark, so why say / imply that he's not? Quote
DJ Dangerous Posted April 9 Author Posted April 9 Received an email from Rails this morning, Murphy Models 071's / 111's expected Q4 2024: 2 1 Quote
murphaph Posted April 9 Posted April 9 (edited) What do we expect on the pricing front? More prices like the baby GMs? I was kind of caught on the hop with those and just decided to push ahead with my pre-order of 5 despite the high price but if we are looking at €250 for DCC ready I will be a lot more conservative in what I pre-order this time I reckon. Edited April 9 by murphaph 5 Quote
NIRCLASS80 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 I would would imagine €230 to €250 mark going on present pricing for these small limited runs. It shows you why IRM have to cut out the middle man to make it work. 1 1 Quote
Wexford70 Posted April 9 Posted April 9 Will the grey 071s have the handles on the front of the cab like the previous run or will they match the prototype? Quote
Dempsey Posted April 10 Posted April 10 I may have missed it but is this just a re run of the last tooling or a new new tooling with possibly details that may not have been originally possibly to model? Quote
DJ Dangerous Posted April 10 Author Posted April 10 8 hours ago, Dempsey said: I may have missed it but is this just a re run of the last tooling or a new new tooling with possibly details that may not have been originally possibly to model? @BosKonay posted in the 201 thread that both the 071 re-run and the 201 re-run should be identical to previous batches. Happy days for you, Mr. 071! 1 Quote
Westcorkrailway Posted April 10 Posted April 10 Oh….I though the 201s would have the new liveries like badger, 2015 enteprise and new IE logo cork mainline green Quote
Bob229 Posted April 10 Posted April 10 17 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Oh….I though the 201s would have the new liveries like badger, 2015 enteprise and new IE logo cork mainline green Hope so looking at Murphy Model website these liveries are mentioned for the 201 release Quote
Strimmers Posted April 10 Posted April 10 53 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Oh….I though the 201s would have the new liveries like badger, 2015 enteprise and new IE logo cork mainline green it'll be them liveries just the tooling wont have changed hence identical being mentioned 1 Quote
DJ Dangerous Posted June 13 Author Posted June 13 The MM 071 re-run has gone a bit silent... Anybody heard any inside rumours? Quote
jhb171achill Posted June 13 Posted June 13 On 10/4/2024 at 9:37 PM, Westcorkrailway said: Oh….I though the 201s would have the new liveries like badger, 2015 enteprise and new IE logo cork mainline green County Donegal red & cream would look better than any of the dreary Enterprise liveries..............! .......Or "Ballina Goods Train Grey"! 2 Quote
Anders112 Posted October 26 Posted October 26 Unfortunately won’t make the show today as I’m currently 17,000km away Down under in sure everyone will probably have paddy’s Murphy’s ears burned off with asking about the 071s, any info would be greatly appreciated had a great chat with paddy Murphy at last years show about the memories associated with his models. Enjoy the show 1 Quote
MOGUL Posted October 26 Posted October 26 (edited) Forgot to ask Paddy about 071s, but he does have a new announcement for us all.. Hopefully someone will share it on here soon Edited October 26 by MOGUL 2 Quote
Grange Castle Posted October 26 Posted October 26 (edited) And some announcement it is too ! Right up my street, had a great chat with Paddy about it. Photo doesn't do it justice at all. Edited October 26 by Grange Castle 4 4 Quote
mphoey Posted October 26 Posted October 26 28 minutes ago, Grange Castle said: And some announcement it is too ! Right up my street, had a great chat with Paddy about it. Photo doesn't do it justice at all. wow very intersting choice Quote
DiveController Posted October 26 Posted October 26 6 hours ago, Grange Castle said: And some announcement it is too ! Right up my street, had a great chat with Paddy about it. Photo doesn't do it justice at all. what is this? the present day DART? Quote
mphoey Posted October 26 Posted October 26 1 minute ago, DiveController said: what is this? the present day DART? yep the new alstom hybrid 1 Quote
BosKonay Posted October 26 Posted October 26 Just now, mphoey said: yep the new alstom hybrid Correct, not yet running as yet. Quote
DiveController Posted October 26 Posted October 26 Just now, mphoey said: yep the new alstom hybrid Ah, I see. Haven't seen this in the flesh as an ex-pat. Are there many of these in service? When did they enter service? Presuabnly as a hybrid the use the DART electrified network and can run south of it also? Quote
mphoey Posted October 26 Posted October 26 9 minutes ago, DiveController said: Ah, I see. Haven't seen this in the flesh as an ex-pat. Are there many of these in service? When did they enter service? Presuabnly as a hybrid the use the DART electrified network and can run south of it also? only 1 set here for evaluation wont see service for a while yet but will be operating first on the dundalk drogheda line till electrification is done Quote
Georgeconna Posted October 26 Posted October 26 yep, one for the Dubs I think. Very limited scope modelling wise outside that area obviously. Wish him the best with it. 1 Quote
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