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56 minutes ago, declan64 said:

I've had 3-4 deliveries from them since Brexit without any problems. Effectively no different from the pre-Brexit experience with them which has been a relief.

I had a double VAT hit with Hornby but got them to refund me the UK VAT which they shouldn't have charged me with in the first place.

That was the plan for Germany too. Do the parcels have some marking on them to say delivered duty paid? I haven't bought anything from them for a while but I see reports on the German forum I'm on about vat being charged. Hattons refunds the vat but it's a hassle for everyone.

I'd almost prefer them to deduct the UK vat but their German turnover is seemingly too high and they are obliged to charge vat at the checkout.

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6 minutes ago, BosKonay said:

All changes July 1st with removals of the exemptions and new ‘One Stop Shop’ Vat registration across the EU

Does that mean that online sellers will have to charge 7% IGIC for sales to Las Canarias at point of sale, instead of selling VAT free? That would save a lot of headaches when receiving orders, having the IGIC pre-paid.

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1 hour ago, DJ Dangerous said:

Does that mean that online sellers will have to charge 7% IGIC for sales to Las Canarias at point of sale, instead of selling VAT free? That would save a lot of headaches when receiving orders, having the IGIC pre-paid.

Unfortunately IGIC isn’t VAT as far as the EU are concerned So no change to the process there :( 

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3 hours ago, declan64 said:

And Hattons are registered for Irish VAT so that means painless deliveries (and no extra processing fees) and painless returns if you have a problem. With anyone else you're going to have to claim your VAT back from the courier who paid it if your return something. 

I'm not aware of any other UK supplier providing this (apart from Amazon which wouldn't be my first stop for railway models). Does anyone know of anyone else?

eBay purchases from the UK are a  total disaster post Brexit. Don't get me going ....

 

We have examined the options for exporting DDTP to Ireland and the UK mainly to remove the uncertainty around price for high value orders.

The main issues are that the DDTP shipping rates for small parcels are considerably higher than ordinary air parcel or international courier services and only one company operating an affordable DDTP service from NZ to the UK.

There may not be much difference in total price in ordering duty unpaid and paying the vat and associated charges on arrival as ordering an item DDTP as the charges and fees are built into the DDTP shipping rate.

From a practical point of view there is no additional labelling on a package to indicate that its sent DDTP, packages are kept separate from other mail and parcels sent in a separate DDTP mail bag from the customers premises to a internal airport and distributed from a "fulfilment center' in the country of arrival rather than being scanned by customs. 

The E-Bay Global Shipping Services and some Chinese shippers operate on the same principal, high value package arrives from the States or China with a local postmark and no customs declaration on the box.

 

 

 

 

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Personally I prefer sellers in the UK to deduct the vat (if they are vat registered) and ship it with a handwritten label. I've found stuff will often sneak through customs here if it's a smaller, lighter package especially. The volumes of parcels are so huge still that a lot gets waved through.

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Afternoon all

a couple of questions for those people here who know "people"!😃

whats the latest score with the 121 Sales?..... roughly what percentage of the run is sold

any idea whats left and what is sold out completely? - I see the Black and Tan B125 and B131 are sold out all over stocklists websites - interesting that given we're told many times its a bit "old" - see the same with "A" Class on IRM ... is  just the livery that looks great!

Just asking for a friend :D..... who left it a bit late to get a B131 ......on pre-order with Hattons now....will they get it into stock?

 

 

 

 

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22 hours ago, Edo said:

I see the Black and Tan B125 and B131 are sold out all over stocklists websites - interesting that given we're told many times its a bit "old" - see the same with "A" Class on IRM ... is  just the livery that looks great!

@Edo - The photographs of the 121s on websites didn't do the early liveried versions real justice, they look way better in the flesh. As per Wrenneire's post above, if the full range is available at the Bray show it'd be worth going - it will eliminate any doubts some people have about the grey livery, think it shows off all the details of the prototype at it's best. Same with the As, I only had eyes for the EMD engined As until I saw the Crossley versions at the last Annual Railway Exhibition in 2019. I think that the As as they appeared originally have a bit more character than the later up-rated versions.

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I will make it to Bray one day - just not on the 19th - its the Ma's birthday - I like trains - but I also like like keeping the nagging level in my life at acceptable levels ............when the missus finds out I've ordered 8 A class that quota is going to get used very fast!!

Anyway.........I know a man............who is getting me sorted :D - thanks Wrenneire.

 

 

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On 5/7/2021 at 1:21 AM, WRENNEIRE said:

Full range was available in Bray last Sunday and will be again on the 19th!

I presume you mean the 18th.

On 5/7/2021 at 12:43 PM, Edo said:

I will make it to Bray one day - just not on the 19th - its the Ma's birthday - I like trains - but I also like like keeping the nagging level in my life at acceptable levels ............when the missus finds out I've ordered 8 A class that quota is going to get used very fast!!

Anyway.........I know a man............who is getting me sorted :D - thanks Wrenneire.

 

 

You should be o.k. Edo. The next Bray show is on Sunday 18 July. Get to Bray on Sunday and still have time for the Ma's birthday on the 19th!

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