New murphy Models 141s

[murphaph]

1 hour ago, DoctorPan said:

I think the bigger surprise today from Paddy was the discovery of some of the original run BGMs and being sold off by the stand.

I am glad I have all the ones applicable to my chosen era or I'd be going mad that I hadn't sent a representative lol. Do you know what he was charging for these rarities? 

[Noel]

It looks like the new MM mk2d release coaches featured above are a better shade of orange than the original release.

[DoctorPan]

2 hours ago, murphaph said:

I am glad I have all the ones applicable to my chosen era or I'd be going mad that I hadn't sent a representative lol. Do you know what he was charging for these rarities? 

190 for the BGMs and 50 for the CIE flying snail coaches. 

[flange lubricator]

18 hours ago, murphaph said:

Does anyone know how long 174 stayed in that STIR livery?

Thats a difficult one to answer 174 made it into full IR livery prior to its withdrawal in sometime circa 1993 there are other examples of 141's in STIR livery up to 1991 /1992 if not beyond.

A Jonthan Allen picture of a weathered 174 in 1992

 

One question I forgot to ask yesterday when visiting Paddy Murphy's stand was the ETA on the 141/181 class additions.

Edited October 30, 2022 by flange lubricator

[murphaph]

Thanks a lot Mark. Safe to say then that probably no baby GM'S were still in STIR livery by 1995 then? If so I will leave that one. It's not like I have a shortage of tippex ones. 

[Eagles]

Great day full of surprise had a chat with Murphy models display stand of new models brought 2 old tooling models mm0141 CiiE black B141 and mmo181 cie black B181 is in box with tissue paper covered box happy days display stand was excellent one of joy of visiting show is viewing display stands

[Wexford70]

On 25/10/2022 at 12:16 PM, DJ Dangerous said:

Awesome!!!!!!!

Just so you know, the empty flats don't show up under the Container Liner heading, but do show under the general wagon collections heading.

Product link:

https://irishrailwaymodels.com/collections/wagons/products/cie-ir-42-flat-triple-unloaded-flat-b

 

 

1 hour ago, flange lubricator said:

Thats a difficult one to answer 174 made it into full IR livery prior to its withdrawal in sometime circa 1993 there are other examples of 141's in STIR livery up to 1991 /1992 if not beyond.

A Jonthan Allen picture of a weathered 174 in 1992

 

One question I forgot to ask yesterday when visiting Paddy Murphy's stand was the ETA on the 141/181 class additions.

When I asked Paddy he said hopefully sometime next year but the manufacturer has warned of production challenges. 

These will appear before the MK3 as the driver cab is proving a real challenge. 

[jhb171achill]

5 hours ago, murphaph said:

I am glad I have all the ones applicable to my chosen era or I'd be going mad that I hadn't sent a representative lol. Do you know what he was charging for these rarities? 

Prices for new ones not finalised yet, it seems.

[murphaph]

On 29/10/2022 at 4:46 PM, ttc0169 said:

I notice the EGV is not there. Was there any mention of it from PM?

[meathdane]

38 minutes ago, murphaph said:

I notice the EGV is not there. Was there any mention of it from PM?

I asked him about the Mk2 run today and he mentioned EGVs in the new runs, with prices and dates to be confirmed

[Niles]

MM even had a few Woolwiches and NCC Jintys for sale, the former are about 20 years old now, had to do a double take. 

[ttc0169]

7 hours ago, murphaph said:

I notice the EGV is not there. Was there any mention of it from PM?

No

[WRENNEIRE]

Some more 141/181 pics
Hadn't time to post them since the show
Been busy dealing with and reading some of the bitching that went on after the show
Tried to answer some but find I am barred from their forum
I mean  not being able to answer says it all
 Keyboard assassins, don't you just love them

Back to the locos:
B&T 147



185

 

Supertrain 149


191sa





 

[DJ Dangerous]

29 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Some more 141/181 pics
Hadn't time to post them since the show
Been busy dealing with and reading some of the bitching that went on after the show
Tried to answer some but find I am barred from their forum
I mean  not being able to answer says it all
 Keyboard assassins, don't you just love them

Back to the locos:
B&T 147



185

 

Supertrain 149


191sa





 

 

Are these being run using the same tooling as the original run, or new tooling?

Bachmann or Murphy Models packaging?

More importantly, where are you barred from now?

[jhb171achill]

29 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Some more 141/181 pics
Hadn't time to post them since the show
Been busy dealing with and reading some of the bitching that went on after the show
Tried to answer some but find I am barred from their forum
I mean  not being able to answer says it all
 Keyboard assassins, don't you just love them

Back to the locos:
B&T 147



185

 

Supertrain 149


191sa





 

Saw the whinging, indeed. However, I think most of us with a bit of wit realised the realities as pointed out by some club members.n It's a bit like then preservation issue "Why doesn't the ITG / RPSI / DCDR put everything at Moyasta and everywhere else into fully-restored heritage use next week....?" In the tiny market that is Ireland, we're lucky to have shows at all, and people to man them and organise them.

 

On 27/10/2022 at 4:09 PM, MOGUL said:

Tis a sad scene in my office today, the pride of my bus and truck fleet has been boxed up and will be dropped off to the Post office tomorrow 

On the plus side, I will be a couple of hundred better off coming into the weekend to fund my IRM ferts and a few more bits and pieces.. 

It feels a bit like selling my knee caps to buy new earlobes, the things we do for love!

Now the only question is, will Paddy take my first born as payment for 141s,as I'm running out of things to flog, soon it'll just be me, a desk and boxes of railway models!

I have started 3D printing large parcels of 500 euro notes in order to be ready for the next IRM announcement. All children, cousins, kitchen sinks, uncles, parents, siblings and neighbours are long since auctioned off. My credit card is at the doctor's this afternoon.

[connollystn]

32 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said:

Been busy dealing with and reading some of the bitching that went on after the show

Didn't have time to bitch as I was busy consuming copious amounts of tea and stuffing myself with loads of tasty currant scones.

[jhb171achill]

4 minutes ago, connollystn said:

Didn't have time to bitch as I was busy consuming copious amounts of tea and stuffing myself with loads of tasty currant scones.

I had a fair oul go at the scones and KitKats, neither of which appeared to have any suitable pockets for NEM couplings, let alone a place for a DCC chip (mind you, they would have been a bit chewy). Otherwise, they looked extremely realistic.

[Blaine]

On 29/10/2022 at 4:52 PM, murphaph said:

Does anyone know how long 174 stayed in that STIR livery?

Not very long -  was the 1st 141 to be stood down, moreso for parts, circa 1993/4. 191 was the final STIR loco after its little adventure to Clonsilla

[WRENNEIRE]

1 hour ago, DJ Dangerous said:

 

Are these being run using the same tooling as the original run, or new tooling?

Bachmann or Murphy Models packaging?

More importantly, where are you barred from now?

Some tweaks to the original tooling plus speaker will be installed
MM packaging I presume, he is not associated with Bachmann any longer afaik
Cant remember the name of the site, shows how interested I was in it but its the one where I was lied about by its admin and then unable to answer as he barred me straight away!
 

[murphaph]

24 minutes ago, Blaine said:

Not very long -  was the 1st 141 to be stood down, moreso for parts, circa 1993/4. 191 was the final STIR loco after its little adventure to Clonsilla

Good stuff. When did 191 hit the buffers in Clonsilla?

[Galteemore]

15 minutes ago, murphaph said:

Good stuff. When did 191 hit the buffers in Clonsilla?

17 Aug 1991

[murphaph]

So no STIR locos existed after this date?

[Galteemore]

Not in traffic, as I understand from Blaine’s post above. The mortal remains of 191 lingered at Inchicore until disposed of in 1998, I think. 

[jhb171achill]

“Halfway” liveries rarely last long.

[gm171 kk]

56 minutes ago, murphaph said:

So no STIR locos existed after this date?

I remember seeing a photo one around 94. They definitely made it to 93.

[murphaph]

It seems like we're as close to consensus as the security council of the United Nations.

[jhb171achill]

3 hours ago, murphaph said:

It seems like we're as close to consensus as the security council of the United Nations.

No we’re not…….  

[Noel]

On 4/11/2022 at 1:57 PM, WRENNEIRE said:

Some more 141/181 pics
Hadn't time to post them since the show
Been busy dealing with and reading some of the bitching that went on after the show
Tried to answer some but find I am barred from their forum
I mean  not being able to answer says it all
 Keyboard assassins, don't you just love them

Back to the locos:
B&T 147



185

 

Supertrain 149


191sa





 

147 missing a buffer? Or was it sent to Ukraine? BTW thanks for the pics.

Does anybody know when the new Murphy Model baby GMs 141/181 are due to be in retailers? Any indication of when in 2023 or perhaps 2024? 

Likewise any dates for the mk3 sets?

Edited November 8, 2022 by Noel

[Blaine]

9 minutes ago, Noel said:

147 missing a buffer? Or was it sent to Ukraine? BTW thanks for the pics.

Does anybody know when the new Murphy Model baby GMs 141/181 are due to be in retailers? Any indication of when in 2023 or perhaps 2024? 

Likewise any dates for the mk3 sets?

31st April 2023 please god,allah, jewish god, tom cruise, atheist spirit..........

Bit of patience maybe? He has only just announced them. If you had gone to the MRSI show last month you could have asked The Man in person and he would have told you

[jhb171achill]

He told me he couldn’t be exactly sure when any of the above would be ready. He deals with up to four separate factories, so it’s in the lap’o’the gods for now.

[Niles]

On 4/11/2022 at 3:38 PM, Blaine said:

Not very long -  was the 1st 141 to be stood down, moreso for parts, circa 1993/4. 191 was the final STIR loco after its little adventure to Clonsilla

The numberwanger in me twigged that 174 and 191 had something in common (and 125 already done).

[spudfan]

Thinking of adding some interior detailing to my 141/181 fleet. Which side is the steering wheel on? I presume the 071 class is the same?

[Blaine]

Just now, spudfan said:

Thinking of adding some interior detailing to my 141/181 fleet. Which side is the steering wheel on? I presume the 071 class is the same?

Yes, all dual control, 'left' side generally has the CAWS and Train Radio equipment, right side only used for shunting

[Mac]

Coming in on this conversation after seeing Accurascale producing the Class 66 from moulds purchased from Hattons. IRM are already working with MM so I'm wondering if the MK2s and 3s being released (this year perhaps!) will get an IRM makeover and be marketed through the IRM website as a collaboration with MM! 

[raymurph]

Just wondering what price do people think secondhand older MM 141s and 181s to go for let's say 6 months after the new batch are released?