JasonB Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Interestingly the ones on eBay have white/cream coloured roofs, whereas the marks models ones are dark grey roofs??? Same model numbers so did bachmann produce two variants? Hmmm price aside, I've yet to see a brass built one that is not warped or twisted in some way. Bit of a sweeping statement to make Noel.There's plenty of brass kits running on layouts that suffer from none of the above mentioned.I've also seen many brass kits on here which have been built to exceptionally high standards. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 The BRASS 42' flat is so well designed that you'd have to go out of your way to make it warped or twisted. The mind boggles at that statement. R Agree 100% it is one of the cleverest designed brass kits I have seen. Patience and time is all that is needed. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted September 13, 2017 Share Posted September 13, 2017 Bit of a sweeping statement to make Noel.There's plenty of brass kits running on layouts that suffer from none of the above mentioned.I've also seen many brass kits on here which have been built to exceptionally high standards. Fair enough. I was not criticising any particular kit, but rather the results the medium itself yields in the hands of 'some' average builders. And photos from layouts bear this up. There are a small number of superb master builders on here who aim for and achieve precision results from brass, but that seems to be more the exception than the norm. I know I would fall into the latter category myself with this material. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Glenderg Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 (edited) The medium, as you describe it, demands a level of precision and accuracy to design that is on par with anything I've entertained with my Asian counterparts. In fact, you can attain a higher level of fidelity with brass than you can with plastic, due to the tolerances of injection moulding gates and so on. Try any brass kit, any at all, and I guarantee that the person who authored it went through several iterations of design, etch, build & discard, to finally get to a finished item, for the market. The brass kit makers lot is one of pilgrimage, that involves the bending of metal to perfectly mesh on the fold, to be soldered and line up absolutely true. Anyone who has tackled a Kearney/SSM, John Mayne, or even a UK brass kit will know that if you know what bit sticks to what other bit, it's impossible to have it warp or bend. To say that "I was not criticising any particular kit, but rather the results the medium itself yields in the hands of 'some' average builders. And photos from layouts bear this up" is tantamount to a fella saying "the sky is mostly blue, but on the odd occasion it's green, but I've no photos to back this up". Complete Balderdash. This is an appallingly incorrect message to propagate on this, or any of the other fora you post on, that brass kits are inordinately difficult and are the preserve of a select few, and you should withdraw those comments. It's the same as a dapol kit - stick A to B, then to C. It's just heat, solder and flux as opposed to glue and pray. Resin and Whitemetal kits will bend and warp like Pat Hickey at an OCI inquiry, but not brass. Lastly, I have yet to see a warped brass finished kit on either here, or RMweb in all my years of perusing both. I'd be enlightened if such photos actually existed and would encourage you to post them in a new thread, so I can ally any "brass fears" you may have , in an appropriate place. To keep this "on topic" here's a cracking offer, if anyone's in the mood. http://www.ebay.ie/itm/322741898367?ul_noapp=true Rich. Edited September 14, 2017 by Glenderg 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted September 14, 2017 Share Posted September 14, 2017 Excellent post from someone who knows exactly what he is talking about. Also getting back on topic the Cravens really are a fantastic model that deserve their place at the top table. Definitely one of MM's finest models, I love them, even at full price they are still a bargain. Rich, Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
snapper Posted October 6, 2017 Share Posted October 6, 2017 53% off Narrow Gauge Rolling Stock : An Irish Railway Pictorial €7.86 delivered https://www.bookdepository.com/Narrow-Gauge-Rolling-Stock-Desmond-Coakham/9780711031494?ref=grid-view&qid=1507275743508&sr=1-7 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted October 11, 2017 Share Posted October 11, 2017 Good bargain here for any of our US members http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HO-OO-Scale-Lima-Irish-Rail-Executive-Coaches-/202075682929?hash=item2f0ca63871:g:uMcAAOSwhfxZbXHM Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted February 4, 2018 Share Posted February 4, 2018 (edited) Might be of some interest to our 21mm modellers Pre Westhy SSM? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/4mm-Irish-21mm-Wagon-Compensation-Units-Wagon-21mm-Axles-Split-Axles/332542586013?hash=item4d6d152c9d:g:xrMAAOSwXf1adgue Edited February 4, 2018 by WRENNEIRE Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 Had a little giggle to myself this fine sunny morn Posted on an ad in Done Deal "Hornby railway trains for sale or swap 5 vintage steam locos and all made in England not the rubbish from China" I reckon he wont be buying any IRM "rubbish" 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 17 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said: Had a little giggle to myself this fine sunny morn Posted on an ad in Done Deal "Hornby railway trains for sale or swap 5 vintage steam locos and all made in England not the rubbish from China" I reckon he wont be buying any IRM "rubbish" Gas, the latter years Margate stuff was the worst stuff I have ever run. Well, it didnt run properly, at all. Pulled nothing, looked hideous etc etc. Hornby China stuff blows its socks off. 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 There's light years between the Chinese and UK stuff that was built years ago. Times have moved on no matter where it built standards would have improved. But I do have stuff that still runs and runs well from the 70'80s that has no tiny bits to break off them!!. Even if it is a few laps and then a quick pick up to smell the slight burning odour off the motor. Loverly 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted June 6, 2018 Share Posted June 6, 2018 4 hours ago, Warbonnet said: Gas, the latter years Margate stuff was the worst stuff I have ever run. Well, it didnt run properly, at all. Pulled nothing, looked hideous etc etc. Hornby China stuff blows its socks off. Yes Hornby stuff back then really was rubbish until Bachmann forced them to raise their game. Bachmann were light years ahead of them. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 Another bargain Repainted Bachmann Class 158? https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Irish-2-car-Hand-built-DMU-Arrows/263765463240?hash=item3d69a590c8:g:FpoAAOSw1ztbJ--4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted June 18, 2018 Share Posted June 18, 2018 He has been spirited on by the price his MK2 coaches made on eBay yesterday Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 6 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Another bargain Repainted Bachmann Class 158? https://www.ebay.ie/itm/Irish-2-car-Hand-built-DMU-Arrows/263765463240?hash=item3d69a590c8:g:FpoAAOSw1ztbJ--4 Looks like a D&M Models 2600 Arrow Railcar set. Will be interesting to see what it fetches 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 2 hours ago, Mayner said: Looks like a D&M Models 2600 Arrow Railcar set. Will be interesting to see what it fetches Yes that's not a resprayed 158, it does indeed look like a D&M which is well worth a good price. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 It was the Bachmann box that threw me, probably used the running gear from the 158 and then used the box for storage Good spot John. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 That's a class 150 chassis. It's either a first release or upgraded chassis. My guess would be that it is from the original 150 releases. Rich. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Waterfordtrain Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 Think you might want to spend sometime in Specsavers Wrenneire 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted June 19, 2018 Share Posted June 19, 2018 They even gave me a second pair for free, should use them more often Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ian Cooper Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 Just a heads up for anyone looking for Murphy Models 141's or Craven coaches. Hattons have just listed some secondhand ones on their website. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted October 9, 2018 Share Posted October 9, 2018 2 hours ago, Ian Cooper said: Just a heads up for anyone looking for Murphy Models 141's or Craven coaches. Hattons have just listed some secondhand ones on their website. Nice 184 in modern IE tippex livery for £220 which is a keen price for a pristine MM 181 with sound, pro-weathered and buffer beam detail added. Personally I really like the subtle weathering on this one, not over done. https://www.hattons.co.uk/399823/Bachmann_Branchline_MM0184_PO_Irish_Class_181_184_in_IE_livery_Commissioned_by_Murphy_Models_of_Dublin_Pre_ow/StockDetail.aspx Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted December 5, 2018 Share Posted December 5, 2018 Spotted six 141/181s for sale on donedeal. Pricey!!! https://www.donedeal.ie/hobbies-for-sale/six-141-amp-181-class-irish-railway-model-locos-/20279783 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DiveController Posted December 7, 2018 Share Posted December 7, 2018 (edited) Agree. I know some of the prices listed are ridiculous but isn't this the bargain thread guys? Edited December 7, 2018 by DiveController Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 Jasus....... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MURPHY-MODELS-00-GAUGE-MM1529-IE-IRISH-RAIL-CRAVEN-STANDARD-COACH-NEW-RARE/264215807122?hash=item3d847d4492:g:TcMAAOSw-YVcdch-:rk:4:pf:1&frcectupt=true Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 21 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Jasus....... https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/MURPHY-MODELS-00-GAUGE-MM1529-IE-IRISH-RAIL-CRAVEN-STANDARD-COACH-NEW-RARE/264215807122?hash=item3d847d4492:g:TcMAAOSw-YVcdch-:rk:4:pf:1&frcectupt=true Jasus is right. What planet are some of these living on. I'll be watching this with interest. If they do manage to offload it to someone deluded enough to buy it, I know what I'll be doing with my one Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted February 28, 2019 Share Posted February 28, 2019 AND ...... they "don't post to Ireland"!!!!!!!!!!!!! Rip off merchants. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
mmie353 Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 Interesting line on the description, "This is an opportunity to get your hands on a very unusual, highly collectable piece of model locomotive history that appears to be sold out everywhere", Locomotive??? Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 He might be related to this gobshite https://www.ebay.ie/itm/OO-Scale-Irish-Four-Wheel-Open-Plank-Wagon-MIOB-LIMA-305617W/163562915161?hash=item26151c0559:g:4BkAAOSwPEhccmiQ:rk:3:pf:0 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
JasonB Posted March 1, 2019 Share Posted March 1, 2019 7 hours ago, mmie353 said: Interesting line on the description, "This is an opportunity to get your hands on a very unusual, highly collectable piece of model locomotive history that appears to be sold out everywhere", Locomotive??? What's that I can smell? It's definitely something familiar...A hint of grapes maybe? I've definitely smelt it somewhere before... Ah that's it. It's bullshit. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lambeg man Posted April 9, 2019 Share Posted April 9, 2019 (edited) On 2/28/2019 at 10:21 PM, JasonB said: Jasus is right. What planet are some of these living on. I'll be watching this with interest. If they do manage to offload it to someone deluded enough to buy it, I know what I'll be doing with my one Hi to all, These carriages (Murphys Models CIE Cravens) are still available from Frizinghall Models & Railways (they regularly advertise in the Railway Modeller magazine) for £45. Check their website. Edited April 9, 2019 by Lambeg man Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 Nice little tool that turns up regularly from this store https://www.lidl.ie/en/special-offers.htm?articleId=19091 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
irishthump Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 32 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said: Nice little tool that turns up regularly from this store https://www.lidl.ie/en/special-offers.htm?articleId=19091 That's a steal... Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 1 hour ago, WRENNEIRE said: Nice little tool that turns up regularly from this store https://www.lidl.ie/en/special-offers.htm?articleId=19091 If, as it probably does, it has the same spindle as their cordless ones, then the Dremel chuck will fit it - handy to avoid collet-changing when using stuff that's not on the 'standard' spindle size. Obtainable for a few quid via eBay. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
amdaley Posted May 7, 2019 Share Posted May 7, 2019 2 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Nice little tool that turns up regularly from this store https://www.lidl.ie/en/special-offers.htm?articleId=19091 I've had one of these for years. Excellent for the price. 14 minutes ago, Broithe said: If, as it probably does, it has the same spindle as their cordless ones, then the Dremel chuck will fit it - handy to avoid collet-changing when using stuff that's not on the 'standard' spindle size. Obtainable for a few quid via eBay. Is this the chuck ? https://www.mcquillantools.ie/dremel-4468-chuck/ Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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