Warbonnet Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Well then, who could've predicted that? Our second powered model for IRM is an everyday sight, stalwart of the passenger services across the country for the last 15 years and our very first railcar model. It is of course, the 220000 Class Rotem ICR railcars! Prototype History The ICRs have reached all corners of the rail network in Ireland, and also operated on cross-border 'Enterprise' duties to Belfast in their 15 years on our network to date. Originally delivered in 3 and 6 car formats, there has been numerous reshufflings of the fleet since then, with 3, 4, 5 and 6 car sets common sights. Additional cars are even being delivered currently, with the fleet proving to be totally reliable and completely dependable. Check out our history file here to learn more about the interesting lives the ICRs have lived to date. The Model Following on from the success of our A Class, we have been looking to make a pretty big statement in our second powered model. While locomotives, especially diesels, have become well served on the Irish scene, railcars have been a poor relation. So, we felt it was time to take up the mantle and provide a model of the most numerous train which can be seen around the country today. Doing the Rotems justice requires doing it 'the IRM Way', so a wonderful mix of the variations, formation lengths and high quality detail and finish has been built into the models which will find their homes on your layout. As you can see from these images, the detail itself is going to be exquisite. Our friends in Irish Rail have played a pivotal part in this model, giving us access to the fleet at their HQ at Portlaoise Traincare Depot on a number of occasions as we measured up an surveyed the real deals. This has allowed us to create probably the most detailed ever railcar model in OO gauge, with a whole host of features, including: Detail Highly detailed 3, 4 and 6 car railcar sets depicting the life to date of the 220000 class railcars The Driving Cars (DRBFO and DMSO) are supplied with optional extended magnetic front mounted Voith couplings, to allow for authentic multiple set working. The Driving Cars (DRBFO and DMSO) are fitted with poseable front fairings at the front. Fully detailed die-cast underframe with all cylinders, battery boxes, cabinets and piping applied separately Eroded metal, plastic and wire detail parts, including (but not limited to) roof detail, handrails, door handles, lamp brackets, brake gear, brake discs, draw gear, vents and louvres Prism free flush glazing Fully directional lighting, with full range of lighting options for day/night running and shunting/yard configurations. Full passenger interior lighting in all vehicles, set at correct colour temperature, with hidden stay-alive capacitors, pick up from one bogie and a reed switch to control on/off via a magnetic wand Separate cab lighting configurations Close coupled gangways, that will be maintained over curves via kinetic couplings Performance Driven car will feature 5-pole skew wound motor with twin flywheels for optimum performance while also maintaining passenger saloon detail, with no blocking of windows by unsightly motor enclosure. Die-cast metal chassis with plastic body. Target weight of 650g for the motorised driving car Wheelbase of 209.97mm, for all vehicles, allowing operation over a minimum radius of 438mm (2nd radius set-track) Metal helical gears fitted for maximum performance and slow speed running. Gearing arranged so drive car can achieve a scale maximum top speed of 100 mph (161 kmh), as a 6-car unit. DCC ready with PowerPack capacitor for uninterrupted power. Un-motored (or dummy) cars, but retain full lighting features, being DCC ready with PowerPack capacitor for uninterrupted power. Fully directional lighting, with full range of lighting options for day/night running and shunting/yard configurations. Full passenger interior lighting in all vehicles, set at correct colour temperature, with hidden stay-alive capacitors, pick up from one bogie and a reed switch to control on/off via a magnetic wand. Separate cab lighting configurations. Operable Central Door Locking (CDL) lights on bodyside. DCC factory fitted sound option available on all variants with ESU Loksound 5 sound decoder Permanently fitted speakers mounted in both types of DMSO and DRBFO. All sounds recorded exclusively for Irish Model Railways by our in-house sound engineer. Delivery and Payment Options So, we know these are going to be a bit special, and laden with features and detail to really give it that 'wow' factor. A model in Irish outline that would be the envy of any continental modeller. The big questions now are; when and how much? Well, one helps with the other. As you can see, we have published CAD renders for the launch. This means that all the CAD design is complete and now tooling is under way. We expect first samples by the Bangor and Wexford shows in April/May 2023, decorated samples this time next year, and modellers will take delivery of these railcars in Q2 2024. We also are aware that the costs of living has gone up in recent times, so we have fought to keep the prices as keen as possible. Remember, this is a price for a complete train, basically a high specification locomotive and some coaches. DC/DCC Ready Sound 3 Car - €349.99 4 Car - €429.99 6 Car - €579.99 DCC Factory Fitted Sound Models 3 Car - €472.99 4 Car - €552.99 6 Car - €702.99 Six car packs also get a free bonus model of the Sculfort locotractor used to shunt the real ICRs around the Portlaoise works (unmotorised). It was cute, so we decided to tool that up too! So, plenty of time to plan our your purchases and it also allows you to make use of our partial.ly and clearpay options, that allow you to spread the cost over easier monthly payments at no extra cost! Just simply add the models to your cart, click on the cart and you will see the options to either spread the cost over 6 months, pay a deposit with the balance when the models came into stock, or up front now to get it out of the way. The partial.ly system can be used on any model that is 6 months or more away from arrival, so perfect for the ICRs. Railcars can be costly, but they are also complete trains bought in one go. So, you need not buy more rolling stock to build a train, they're the full train in one go. To keep the models cost effective, we are unable to offer these to trade as their margin increases the price. Therefore, they will only be available to buy direct via IRM. They will also be made in extremely limited quantities (must less than the A Class) so early ordering is advised. Click here to place your pre-order today View the full article 9 4 Quote
Bob229 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Fantastic news as the ICR run throughout the network a great addition and badly needed for those modelling the current scene and no doubt an another high quality model from IRM, good choice 2 Quote
enniscorthyman Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Excellent choice Guys,this will be a popular model.I am very impressed by the detail.Now,which do I go for3,4,6 2 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Brilliant news 6 car ordered, at least it means the power train done for 80 class and 450 models further down the line. I do wonder if a track pack add on possible for domestic Crimbo market with a 3 car worth it? Robert 3 Quote
Georgeconna Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) Wise choice, Can also be rereleased numerous times with Different numbers over the next while I expect. Edited October 29, 2022 by Georgeconna 2 1 Quote
DJ Dangerous Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, enniscorthyman said: Excellent choice Guys,this will be a popular model.I am very impressed by the detail.Now,which do I go for3,4,6 All of them, duh! Had to order some of these, incredible to see something as it runs this very day available in model form. Thank you, IRM, you've knocked it out of the park this week - as usual, but still! 3 2 Quote
Noel Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Yea, brilliant, well done. Stunning looking. These models should sell well for the next 30 years. I just won a bet too. 2 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 4 minutes ago, Noel said: Yea, brilliant, well done. Stunning looking. These models should sell well for the next 30 years. I just won a bet too. Noel, hopefully payout will part pay for your ICR . I do wonder who will be first to motorise the scutter truck. Robert 1 Quote
Bob229 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, enniscorthyman said: Excellent choice Guys,this will be a popular model.I am very impressed by the detail.Now,which do I go for3,4,6 Went for the 4 car set often see them in Kent Station on the off peak services, the detail of the model is very impressive, do they run on the Rosslare services? 2 Quote
murphaph Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 This is going to be something very special isn't it. It's not my era but as Robert says, the knowledge gained will surely be applicable to future railcars that are. It's kind of nice that Irish modellers got the first loco and now the first railcar/DMU from the IRM/AS stable. This is some leap from a humble ballast wagon just a few short years ago! 3 6 Quote
Broithe Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 7 minutes ago, Bob229 said: Went for the 4 car set often see them in Kent Station on the off peak services, the detail of the model is very impressive, do they run on the Rosslare services? http://rosslare-europort-news.com/train/ Edited October 29, 2022 by Broithe 2 1 Quote
Rapid130RS Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Well done, fantastic. Great to have IRM take the financial risk and have the determination to develop this model. More than happy to order them. The real-life ICRs are fantastic and transformed IE. It will be great to see the 3/3/6 car set looping a west bound liner. Fair dues IRM. 2 Quote
Noel Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Orders placed PS: Just because I don't like travelling on the prototype doesn't mean I won't enjoy these models. Time travel is possible. 2 Quote
Darius43 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Fantastic news. Orders placed for 3-car and 6-car units. Cheers Darius 1 Quote
ttc0169 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Will the models feature the external digital destination displays on the front and side of the coaches ? And would the destinations be capable of being changed? Quote
BosKonay Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 13 minutes ago, ttc0169 said: Will the models feature the external digital destination displays on the front and side of the coaches ? And would the destinations be capable of being changed? Yes. We’ll supply a sheet of acetates like the mk5 so you can set to a destination of your choosing. The door indicator lights also will work and the front coupler is accessible behind a little magnetic attached panel. Quote
connollystn Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Hi Guys. Not a one for blowing my own trumpet but did I not say that the 22,000 would be the next sensible model? 1 Quote
Rapid130RS Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 3 hours ago, ttc0169 said: Will the models feature the external digital destination displays on the front and side of the coaches ? And would the destinations be capable of being changed? More importantly will the seat reservation system work, and will there be a snack trolley 1 1 Quote
BosKonay Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 34 minutes ago, Rapid130RS said: More importantly will the seat reservation system work, and will there be a snack trolley It will only misspell bookings and ensure that someone’s already in your seat. we actually have cad for the trolley done. (Yep we are mad) Quote
gm171 kk Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 5 minutes ago, BosKonay said: It will only misspell bookings and ensure that someone’s already in your seat. If it doesn't mispell my name (Seán) as Setan it won't be an authentic model... I've learned not to use the fada. 1 Quote
Rapid130RS Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 (edited) 16 minutes ago, BosKonay said: It will only misspell bookings and ensure that someone’s already in your seat. we actually have cad for the trolley done. (Yep we are mad) Perfect. I hope the Aircon and WiFi also works. Otherwise you'll get a nasty review im the Irish Times - Róisín Ingle: No tea, no air con, no seat booking — another shambolic day on Irish Rail https://www.irishtimes.com/life-style/people/2022/07/27/roisin-ingle-no-tea-no-air-con-no-seat-booking-another-shambolic-day-on-irish-rail/ Edited October 29, 2022 by Rapid130RS 2 Quote
ttc0169 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 48 minutes ago, Rapid130RS said: More importantly will the seat reservation system work, and will there be a snack trolley No comment Quote
BosKonay Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 6 minutes ago, gm171 kk said: If it doesn't mispell my name (Seán) as Setan it won't be an authentic model... I've learned not to use the fada. We’ll have the DCC chip configured for it Quote
DoctorPan Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 41 minutes ago, BosKonay said: It will only misspell bookings and ensure that someone’s already in your seat. we actually have cad for the trolley done. (Yep we are mad) And there was me thinking the Train Care shunter couldn't be topped! 2 Quote
jhb171achill Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 42 minutes ago, BosKonay said: We’ll have the DCC chip configured for it Will the jax be smelly in coach B? 1 Quote
ttc0169 Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 1 hour ago, jhb171achill said: Will the jax be smelly in coach B? Ask a member of staff to back flush your deposit jhb…..no issues after a back flush…. 1 2 Quote
DiveController Posted October 29, 2022 Posted October 29, 2022 Back flushing a deposit in Jax B? No way Hose! 10 hours ago, murphaph said: It's not my era but as Robert says, the knowledge gained will surely be applicable to future railcars that are. I have actually traveling in one of these but that's where my personal interest in these would end. I might get one because it is an Irish model but would someone tell me what a bowling ball marker or whatsis means pls? Quote
connollystn Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Think I predicted this! Anyway, it was the obvious choice and don't think anyone could have any objections to this being IRM's next powered model. The 22,000s have transformed rail travel in Ireland and the production of these ICRs in model form may entice the younger generation into getting involved in the best hobby in the world. 3 1 Quote
murphaph Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 I suspect these things will sell like hot cakes judging by the reaction here. Absolutely the right choice out of all the railcars I would say. Bring new people into the hobby with a current vehicle and then work backwards hopefully. 3 Quote
Nick Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 23 hours ago, Warbonnet said: Well then, who could've predicted that? Our second powered model for IRM is an everyday sight, stalwart of the passenger services across the country for the last 15 years and our very first railcar model. It is of course, the 220000 Class Rotem ICR railcars! Prototype History The ICRs have reached all corners of the rail network in Ireland, and also operated on cross-border 'Enterprise' duties to Belfast in their 15 years on our network to date. Originally delivered in 3 and 6 car formats, there has been numerous reshufflings of the fleet since then, with 3, 4, 5 and 6 car sets common sights. Additional cars are even being delivered currently, with the fleet proving to be totally reliable and completely dependable. Check out our history file here to learn more about the interesting lives the ICRs have lived to date. The Model Following on from the success of our A Class, we have been looking to make a pretty big statement in our second powered model. While locomotives, especially diesels, have become well served on the Irish scene, railcars have been a poor relation. So, we felt it was time to take up the mantle and provide a model of the most numerous train which can be seen around the country today. Doing the Rotems justice requires doing it 'the IRM Way', so a wonderful mix of the variations, formation lengths and high quality detail and finish has been built into the models which will find their homes on your layout. As you can see from these images, the detail itself is going to be exquisite. Our friends in Irish Rail have played a pivotal part in this model, giving us access to the fleet at their HQ at Portlaoise Traincare Depot on a number of occasions as we measured up an surveyed the real deals. This has allowed us to create probably the most detailed ever railcar model in OO gauge, with a whole host of features, including: Detail Highly detailed 3, 4 and 6 car railcar sets depicting the life to date of the 220000 class railcars The Driving Cars (DRBFO and DMSO) are supplied with optional extended magnetic front mounted Voith couplings, to allow for authentic multiple set working. The Driving Cars (DRBFO and DMSO) are fitted with poseable front fairings at the front. Fully detailed die-cast underframe with all cylinders, battery boxes, cabinets and piping applied separately Eroded metal, plastic and wire detail parts, including (but not limited to) roof detail, handrails, door handles, lamp brackets, brake gear, brake discs, draw gear, vents and louvres Prism free flush glazing Fully directional lighting, with full range of lighting options for day/night running and shunting/yard configurations. Full passenger interior lighting in all vehicles, set at correct colour temperature, with hidden stay-alive capacitors, pick up from one bogie and a reed switch to control on/off via a magnetic wand Separate cab lighting configurations Close coupled gangways, that will be maintained over curves via kinetic couplings Performance Driven car will feature 5-pole skew wound motor with twin flywheels for optimum performance while also maintaining passenger saloon detail, with no blocking of windows by unsightly motor enclosure. Die-cast metal chassis with plastic body. Target weight of 650g for the motorised driving car Wheelbase of 209.97mm, for all vehicles, allowing operation over a minimum radius of 438mm (2nd radius set-track) Metal helical gears fitted for maximum performance and slow speed running. Gearing arranged so drive car can achieve a scale maximum top speed of 100 mph (161 kmh), as a 6-car unit. DCC ready with PowerPack capacitor for uninterrupted power. Un-motored (or dummy) cars, but retain full lighting features, being DCC ready with PowerPack capacitor for uninterrupted power. Fully directional lighting, with full range of lighting options for day/night running and shunting/yard configurations. Full passenger interior lighting in all vehicles, set at correct colour temperature, with hidden stay-alive capacitors, pick up from one bogie and a reed switch to control on/off via a magnetic wand. Separate cab lighting configurations. Operable Central Door Locking (CDL) lights on bodyside. DCC factory fitted sound option available on all variants with ESU Loksound 5 sound decoder Permanently fitted speakers mounted in both types of DMSO and DRBFO. All sounds recorded exclusively for Irish Model Railways by our in-house sound engineer. Delivery and Payment Options So, we know these are going to be a bit special, and laden with features and detail to really give it that 'wow' factor. A model in Irish outline that would be the envy of any continental modeller. The big questions now are; when and how much? Well, one helps with the other. As you can see, we have published CAD renders for the launch. This means that all the CAD design is complete and now tooling is under way. We expect first samples by the Bangor and Wexford shows in April/May 2023, decorated samples this time next year, and modellers will take delivery of these railcars in Q2 2024. We also are aware that the costs of living has gone up in recent times, so we have fought to keep the prices as keen as possible. Remember, this is a price for a complete train, basically a high specification locomotive and some coaches. DC/DCC Ready Sound 3 Car - €349.99 4 Car - €429.99 6 Car - €579.99 DCC Factory Fitted Sound Models 3 Car - €472.99 4 Car - €552.99 6 Car - €702.99 Six car packs also get a free bonus model of the Sculfort locotractor used to shunt the real ICRs around the Portlaoise works (unmotorised). It was cute, so we decided to tool that up too! So, plenty of time to plan our your purchases and it also allows you to make use of our partial.ly and clearpay options, that allow you to spread the cost over easier monthly payments at no extra cost! Just simply add the models to your cart, click on the cart and you will see the options to either spread the cost over 6 months, pay a deposit with the balance when the models came into stock, or up front now to get it out of the way. The partial.ly system can be used on any model that is 6 months or more away from arrival, so perfect for the ICRs. Railcars can be costly, but they are also complete trains bought in one go. So, you need not buy more rolling stock to build a train, they're the full train in one go. To keep the models cost effective, we are unable to offer these to trade as their margin increases the price. Therefore, they will only be available to buy direct via IRM. They will also be made in extremely limited quantities (must less than the A Class) so early ordering is advised. Click here to place your pre-order today View the full article Edit: Unrequired post. Edited October 30, 2022 by Nick Quote
Rob Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 10 hours ago, DiveController said: ..would someone tell me what a bowling ball marker or whatsis means pls? Was wondering that myself.... Quote
LMSNCC Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 Early sets had set numbers in the bowling ball marker style as shown in photo. 3 3 2 Quote
Noel Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 The DCC sound will be very interesting to hear (ie do you simulate exterior sound or the interior sound passengers hear), those sets have very unique horns. Hope there is a rail flange noise included, but obviously there won't be any 'buffer clash' sounds needed. Is there sound on the intermediate car or the driving car? Quote
minister_for_hardship Posted October 30, 2022 Posted October 30, 2022 (edited) 14 hours ago, Rapid130RS said: More importantly will the seat reservation system work, and will there be a snack trolley They will have as standard an 00 scale awkward passenger in your booked seat who pretends not to understand the notion of seat reservations and will refuse to vacate. Sets have optional figures involved in unchallenged anti social behaviour Edited October 30, 2022 by minister_for_hardship 6 Quote
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