connollystn Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 DJ Dangerous, I was thinking the same thing. I expected loads of reviews from people who would have seen the model at first hand but, to my disappointment, not a word. I was going to head to Mark's Models to view the 121 but it's quite cramped in there so I was waiting for the real experts' opinions. 2 Quote
RedRich Posted September 10, 2019 Posted September 10, 2019 There are lot's of our members that have a huge knowledge of the class that don't live in Dublin or even in Ireland. The lads in the MRSI have seen it up close and their knowledge of the prototype and modelling is good enough for me. Lots of folks work Saturday too. The photos posted on here and the video Hattons have on youtube of the model running is as good as it gets without handling the sample. Timing was possibly not the greatest time for people neither with prior commitments. I have to say that it looks stunning and can't wait to see a full production sample. Rich, 1 Quote
K801 Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 Is there a release date for the 121, sorry if I missed it thanks 1 Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted September 25, 2019 Posted September 25, 2019 No definite one, hopefully there will be some news at the 3 day show in Blackrock, either fully painted models or with a bit of luck some for sale! If there is any more news I will post it here 3 2 Quote
DJ Dangerous Posted September 29, 2019 Posted September 29, 2019 I have to confess that I was being selfish, hoping that somebody would have more video or photos, but would also say that it won't be available too soon... Trying to catch up on the last ten or fifteen odd years of Irish models is very expensive, never mind the difficulty in tracking down some of the earlier Murphy Models stock. With IRM now selling some stunning freight models to replace my non-realistic freight stock, there is even more pressure on. There are the A Class and the 121 coming as well, so a small pause between the two would suit me very well! 1 Quote
Edo Posted October 9, 2019 Posted October 9, 2019 Any news? More particularly any price and delivery dates? Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted October 10, 2019 Posted October 10, 2019 Couple of things Some painted examples have arrived and He Who Must Be Canonised is happy with them The finished models wont be here for the 3 day show but there will be some running/painted ones on display Hopefully they should be available before Christmas One thing that surfaced is that there will need to be 6 switches for DC running, double heading being the ball breaker So no stupid replies please, it will be here when its here 11 2 3 Quote
Noel Posted October 10, 2019 Posted October 10, 2019 (edited) Thank you for the heads up. Sounds great. It'll be well worth the wait. Dave do you know what the livery release plan is? (eg grey + IE/IR first, then B&T and ST a few months later, etc?) Well yes double heading is what these locos were born to do. Happy days 2019 is going to be an expensive if not an explosion of new Irish locos. You think CIE locos and all the GMs fill the memories. Is it true the windscreen wipers work? Edited October 10, 2019 by Noel Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted October 10, 2019 Posted October 10, 2019 Hopefully all going well the release will be Grey 121 & 135 IE 124, 129 & 134 Before Christmas Then CIE Black 125 & 131 Supertrain 126 & 132 Possibly late Feb Finally IR 127, 130 & 133 Bangor in April? 2 2 3 Quote
gm171 kk Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 (edited) Are there any plans for a variance in the marker lights? For example there would have been at least two different types of marker lights used by locos carrying the IÉ livery. I assume 124 and 134 will have the latest marker lights but will 129 have the older type used in the 90s? Edited October 11, 2019 by gm171 kk 1 Quote
Noel Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 15 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Hopefully all going well the release will be Grey 121 & 135 IE 124, 129 & 134 Before Christmas Then CIE Black 125 & 131 Supertrain 126 & 132 Possibly late Feb Finally IR 127, 130 & 133 Bangor in April? Sounds great. 1xGrey + 1xB&T + a pair nose2nose in IR would do very nicely. Really looking forward to these locos. No doubt the A will also be exceptional but the distinctive shape of these iconic GMs really wets the appetite. Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 1 hour ago, gm171 kk said: Are there any plans for a variance in the marker lights? For example there would have been at least two different types of marker lights used by locos carrying the IÉ livery. I assume 124 and 134 will have the latest marker lights but will 129 have the older type used in the 90s? The name is Bracken, not Murphy! Lights will be as per period, another detail that has added to the delay 2 1 2 Quote
Keitheg6 Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 5 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said: The name is Bracken, not Murphy! 1 Quote
skinner75 Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Thankfully there is a gap between the IE and IR liveries - it'll give the wallet time to recover!! 1 Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 So you will not be buying any Flats, Ferts or A's? Quote
skinner75 Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 4 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said: So you will not be buying any Flats, Ferts or A's? Flats & two A's already paid for! 3 Quote
StevieB Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Murphy Models have a full page ad in the current issue of BRM and quote dates slightly earlier than in Dave’s post. They will be greatly welcomed whenever they come. Stephen 3 Quote
spudfan Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 Slightly off topic but still 121 related. I remember many years ago, probably the middle 1980's, I was over in Leinster Models in Monck Place and Ciaran McGowan was on counter duty-with pipe in full swing. He was showing me paper plans (blueprints) for an "O" gauge 121 he was building for a customer. I wonder if it is still in existence? Also you could get 121 in "00" gauge built on an American chassis. Don't know if he used Bachmann or Athearn. Anyway it was outside my budget at the time. Little did I realise at the time that a 121 would be available as a standard item. I used to frequent the shop a lot and I have some great memories. I can still smell the pipe smoke from some of the Lima models I bought there! 1 Quote
murrayec Posted October 11, 2019 Posted October 11, 2019 2 hours ago, spudfan said: ''He was showing me paper plans (blueprints) for an "O" gauge 121 he was building for a customer. I wonder if it is still in existence?'' spudfan They built one for the Fry Layout in Malahide Castle, it was no. 130 - it could be that one! Chances are slim it will be displayed in the new museum.... Here is a link to a few photos of one that was built in later times but owes it's heritage to Leinster Models I believe? (this link might encourage wrennie to update his photos in the thread);- Eoin 4 Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 So I was talking to a lad today Although Murphy Models have advertised the model it was a bit premature A couple of problems arose at the last minute but they have been resolved Obviously this will delay the production of the 121 The hope now is that they will be shipped mid to late November, in time for my birthday So apologies from MM but he is hoping that the wait will be worth it Some painted examples may be on view at the SDMRC 3 day show. 3 1 2 Quote
mmie353 Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 Is there any idea yet on how much each will cost? Quote
jhb171achill Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 On 10/11/2019 at 11:41 PM, murrayec said: spudfan They built one for the Fry Layout in Malahide Castle, it was no. 130 - it could be that one! Chances are slim it will be displayed in the new museum.... Eoin The emphasis in Malahide will be on Fry’s actual models in display cases, and an 00 gauge operational layout. Currently there is no plan to display the non-Fry-made models and they remain in storage. They will be properly sorted and catalogued over the winter. 1 Quote
murrayec Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 6 hours ago, jhb171achill said: The emphasis in Malahide will be on Fry’s actual models in display cases, and an 00 gauge operational layout. Currently there is no plan to display the non-Fry-made models and they remain in storage. They will be properly sorted and catalogued over the winter. Hi There will be an overhead Gauge O track! in the new museum with 4 'non-Fry-made' trains running, but unfortunately not including the 121 loco. Eoin Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted October 22, 2019 Posted October 22, 2019 RRP for the 121's will be €190, actually €189.95 2 3 Quote
Old Blarney Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 MURPHY MODELS Class 121 - - - LATEST NEWS from a UK retailer. Murphy Models have confirmed the recommended retail price of the forthcoming CIE Class 121, resulting in a confirmed discounted sales price of £149.50. As this is cheaper than our estimated price, your order has been automatically amended to this new, lower price as per our pre-order policy, and no payment has been taken from you at this stage. We have been advised that decorated samples are expected soon with release anticipated between late November 2019 and early 2020. If you have any further queries regarding the above please do not hesitate to contact us on 0151 733 3655 or info@hattons.co.uk. 3 Quote
Irishswissernie Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 (edited) Had an email from Hattons this morning giving a confirmed discounted pre-order price of £149-50, anticipated delivery late November 2019, early 2020. A pleasant surprise re the price and fingers crossed re the delivery dates. I have 6 IR and IE versions on order. Ernie Sorry for the duplication, OLD Blarney beat me to it! Edited October 23, 2019 by Irishswissernie 2 Quote
Georgeconna Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 12 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: RRP for the 121's will be €190, actually €189.95 Whats your price then Dave? Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 Pleading the 5th George No person shall be subject, except in cases of impeachment, to more than one punishment or trial for the same offense; nor shall be compelled to be a witness against himself; nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor be obliged to relinquish his property, where it may be necessary for public use, without just compensation....[E]xcept in cases of impeachments, and cases arising in the land or naval forces, or the militia when on actual service, in time of war or public danger...in all crimes punishable with loss of life or member, presentment or indictment by a grand jury shall be an essential preliminary.... 1 Quote
Dr Gerbil-Fritters Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 1 hour ago, WRENNEIRE said: all crimes punishable with loss of life or member heavens, I wouldn't want to lose my member over pricing.... or over-pricing for that matter 1 1 Quote
iarnrod Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 So about €173 per 121 from Hattons at today's currency rates. Quote
StevieB Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 Just been looking on Antics website and I saw £145, even better. Stephen Quote
Wexford70 Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 10 minutes ago, StevieB said: Just been looking on Antics website and I saw £145, even better. Stephen Will be interesting to see the local Irish price. 1 Quote
Keitheg6 Posted October 23, 2019 Posted October 23, 2019 9 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Pleading the 5th George No person shall be subject, except in cases of impeachment, to more than one punishment or trial for the same offense; nor shall be compelled to be a witness against himself; nor be deprived of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor be obliged to relinquish his property, where it may be necessary for public use, without just compensation....[E]xcept in cases of impeachments, and cases arising in the land or naval forces, or the militia when on actual service, in time of war or public danger...in all crimes punishable with loss of life or member, presentment or indictment by a grand jury shall be an essential preliminary.... Aka.. Bracken models 1 Quote
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