Warbonnet Posted January 31, 2022 Author Share Posted January 31, 2022 11 hours ago, Noel said: Been playing with A class with the ESU decoders commissioned by IRM installed. Love this loco's incredible chassis and smooth running. A few DCC sound questions please if anybody knows the answers I'd much appreciate it. Please forgive if I've misunderstood the published function list: How does one turn the cab lights on? F12 doesn't seem to do anything What is F23 (Shunt mode lights) meant to do? It seems to turn both cab lights on rather than shunting lights or have I missed something F25 engine room lights doesn't seem to do anything? Is F13 Train brake designed to gradually brake the train when coasting (eg when F7 is engaged)? How does one simulate long distance gradual braking (ie inertia)? Do I need to do any remapping or something? Many thanks Noel Hello Noel, Back on November 27th we sent out an email detailing an error on the DCC function list. I have copied and pasted it below in full to assist you. Updated A Class DCC Function List As you play with your A Class you may note that there has been a mix up with two functions. This is due to a misprint in the operating manual. F12 is in fact "Shunt Mode Marker Lights - Front and Rear" and F23 is "Cab Interior Lights". In the manual this is stated as the opposite way round. Apologies for this mix up. You can download the updated list by clicking on this link. F25 does function as an engine room light but as per prototype it is very faint. Please check across a couple of your locos in case the one you are looking at is not working correctly. Thanks, Fran 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
johnfromoz Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Yet another flawless example, this livery is as far back as my foggy ole 62 yo memory will take me. I'm thinking Mallow or Fermoy, a warm summers evening in 1965. Love the subtlety of the engine room lights 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Warbonnet said: Hello Noel, Back on November 27th we sent out an email detailing an error on the DCC function list. I have copied and pasted it below in full to assist you. Updated A Class DCC Function List As you play with your A Class you may note that there has been a mix up with two functions. This is due to a misprint in the operating manual. F12 is in fact "Shunt Mode Marker Lights - Front and Rear" and F23 is "Cab Interior Lights". In the manual this is stated as the opposite way round. Apologies for this mix up. You can download the updated list by clicking on this link. F25 does function as an engine room light but as per prototype it is very faint. Please check across a couple of your locos in case the one you are looking at is not working correctly. Thanks, Fran Hi Fran No prob. Thanks for the info and link to the PDF. Are the cab lights supposed to be bi-directional? They seem to come on at both ends. Will have another play later today. Thanks. Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 3 hours ago, Warbonnet said: Hello Noel, Back on November 27th we sent out an email detailing an error on the DCC function list. I have copied and pasted it below in full to assist you. Updated A Class DCC Function List As you play with your A Class you may note that there has been a mix up with two functions. This is due to a misprint in the operating manual. F12 is in fact "Shunt Mode Marker Lights - Front and Rear" and F23 is "Cab Interior Lights". In the manual this is stated as the opposite way round. Apologies for this mix up. You can download the updated list by clicking on this link. F25 does function as an engine room light but as per prototype it is very faint. Please check across a couple of your locos in case the one you are looking at is not working correctly. Thanks, Fran PS: Fran a few more questions by way of explanation if you were able to please answer or point me in the right direction, I'd be grateful: Is F6 a toggle between normal inertia acceleration/decelaration times and more direct slower shunting throttle response? or is it a sort of train load setting? Is F13 intended as gradual train braking from coasting or throttle hold? Can one set this decoder up for coasting when a braking function is needed to bring the train to a halt over a prototypical distance? Many Thanks Noel Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
RedRich Posted January 31, 2022 Share Posted January 31, 2022 Shouldn't these questions and requests for info per dcc settings be sent to IRM. Questions are always answered swiftly and concisely by the lads and in lots of cases quicker than on here Rich 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 23 hours ago, Noel said: PS: Fran a few more questions by way of explanation if you were able to please answer or point me in the right direction, I'd be grateful: Is F6 a toggle between normal inertia acceleration/decelaration times and more direct slower shunting throttle response? or is it a sort of train load setting? Is F13 intended as gradual train braking from coasting or throttle hold? Can one set this decoder up for coasting when a braking function is needed to bring the train to a halt over a prototypical distance? Many Thanks Noel Hi Noel, Apologies in the delay in responding to your queries. Unfortunately we have suffered a burst pipe in our office which has been tremendous fun to deal with. 1. F6 reduces the top speed and kills a lot of the inertia. Makes it a lot easier to handle for shunting etc so it's a precision mode. 2. F13 emulates an increased loading so adds to the amount of time to stop. Cheers! Fran 4 1 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 17 hours ago, RedRich said: Shouldn't these questions and requests for info per dcc settings be sent to IRM. Questions are always answered swiftly and concisely by the lads and in lots of cases quicker than on here Rich Tis Handy Noel asked cause I did not know either so know we all do 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Broithe Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 1 hour ago, Warbonnet said: a burst pipe in our office with has been tremendous fun to deal with. It is noted that the contents of this pipe have not been discussed openly... 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DoctorPan Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 5 minutes ago, Broithe said: It is noted that the contents of this pipe have not been discussed openly... Ah so its 20ft keg wagons! 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted February 1, 2022 Author Share Posted February 1, 2022 Hi everyone, In other news A12 (a personal favourite of yours truly, it looks the mutts nuts to me!) Is now down to 20 items remaining in stock. Once they hit this level it's not not before the go completely. Don't miss out! https://irishrailwaymodels.com/products/a12-a-class-locomotive Cheers! Fran 5 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted February 1, 2022 Share Posted February 1, 2022 A12 is a perfect “crossover” between the end of steam and the re-engining programme, itself finishing the same year the “supertrains” started. A black “A” with or without yellow ends will be happily accurate with “snail”-clad loose coupled wagons, and a 50/50 mix of green and black’n’tan carriages, passing along beside a loco shed with rusty withdrawn steam engines in it; but also it will be happy alongside a class sister now hauling squeaky clean new Cravens, with its new GM engine, tan lower band, and “R” after its number. Place it on the GNR main line, sitting in Drogheda, and the new Hunslet-hauled Mk 2 “Enterprise” can swing by, taking this comparison to its ultimate extent. The 1960s saw the biggest changes in Irish railways in their history, and the black “A” - with AND without the yellow patch - was at the centre of it. 6 3 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 I must admit Ordering from IRM is fab. This week I say to the Missus what days are you working this week love... replies "nights Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday on days". Ah bummer I say gonna miss ya (MUAHAHAHAHAHAH!). Straight onto IRM and order this yesterday and ding dong arrives on que the this am....No one the wiser If life was this easy all the time eh. As JHB says she a nice looking loco. Tks lads Superb service. 7 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted February 2, 2022 Share Posted February 2, 2022 (edited) On 1/2/2022 at 2:34 PM, Warbonnet said: Hi everyone, In other news A12 (a personal favourite of yours truly, it looks the mutts nuts to me!) Is now down to 20 items remaining in stock. Once they hit this level it's not not before the go completely. Don't miss out! https://irishrailwaymodels.com/products/a12-a-class-locomotive Cheers! Fran Got delivery of this beauty yesterday A55 in CIE Black. Straight into service hauling pickup goods train to Galway via Mullingar, Moate, Athlone and Athenry with 10 wagons being disconnected and sent north to Claremorris. Photo doesn't do this model justice as the lighting was poor. Edited February 2, 2022 by Noel 6 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted February 3, 2022 Share Posted February 3, 2022 Now this superb model was made for my layout OMg indeed Nostalgia gold. The closest thing to an Irish steam engine in spirit. 11 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Holman Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 A full review is in this month's RM, where it says the A hauled 25 (!) Pullmans around the Peco loft layout, which includes gradients of 1 in 40. Probably a fair bit more that the prototype... 3 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 Hi everyone, We're delighted that everyone is enjoying their As. As per the Railway Modeller review, performance was key, and something we really pushed hard for. Looking great is one thing, but the locos need to perform too, so our push for weight, helical gearing etc was vital and it paid off. Only 10 items of A12 left folks.... A55 also seeing a surge in recent days and when you see @Noel's pics it's easy to understand why! Cheers! Fran 4 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Noel Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 29 minutes ago, Warbonnet said: Hi everyone, We're delighted that everyone is enjoying their As. As per the Railway Modeller review, performance was key, and something we really pushed hard for. Looking great is one thing, but the locos need to perform too, so our push for weight, helical gearing etc was vital and it paid off. Only 10 items of A12 left folks.... A55 also seeing a surge in recent days and when you see @Noel's pics it's easy to understand why! Cheers! Fran Black Beauty. This has become my favourite livery for the CIE A class. Epic 1960s nostalgia. By way of confession, I got a little confused the other night when running it and I couldn't get F22 to work (ie headlights), but of course the early un-rebuilt locos didn't have lights lamps. Call it a brain 7art. Looking forward to the Crossley sound decoder whenever it becomes available for my 3 older A classes (Silver, Green and this Black beauty) Black Beauty. CIE's top line loco in its day. 8 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted February 8, 2022 Author Share Posted February 8, 2022 4 hours ago, Noel said: Looking forward to the Crossley sound decoder whenever it becomes available for my 3 older A classes (Silver, Green and this Black beauty) Black Beauty. CIE's top line loco in its day. Looking good! Re Crossley sounds; it seems that Australia is starting to open up again, which is positive. All except Western Australia, where the X Class is. Typical! Hopefully soon though. We really want to make the crossleys come to life. Cheers! Fran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinner75 Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, Warbonnet said: Looking good! Re Crossley sounds; it seems that Australia is starting to open up again, which is positive. All except Western Australia, where the X Class is. Typical! Hopefully soon though. We really want to make the crossleys come to life. Cheers! Fran Could be worse - could be New Zealand! Oz restrictions meant to be gone by March, whereas NZ are holding on till October 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 In all reality, a black "A", with or without yellow patch (some had them, but some didn't; not all would ever get them) is as essential to any 1960s layout as an ICR or a 201 are to a 2022 layout. I'm sort of half considering getting another.............better get my act together, as there are few left. 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Westcorkrailway Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 54 minutes ago, Warbonnet said: Looking good! Re Crossley sounds; it seems that Australia is starting to open up again, which is positive. All except Western Australia, where the X Class is. Typical! Hopefully soon though. We really want to make the crossleys come to life. Cheers! Fran Will one of the DCC functions for the crossely decoder be the sound of the engine breaking down…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Garfield Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 3 minutes ago, Westcorkrailway said: Will one of the DCC functions for the crossely decoder be the sound of the engine breaking down…. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
patrick Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 19 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: In all reality, a black "A", with or without yellow patch (some had them, but some didn't; not all would ever get them) is as essential to any 1960s layout as an ICR or a 201 are to a 2022 layout. I'm sort of half considering getting another.............better get my act together, as there are few left. So true John. I panicked last week and ordered A12 before they sell out. An option for a second A55 would be to renumber it to one of the prototypes which had the CIE roundal and different placing of the numbers. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
jhb171achill Posted February 8, 2022 Share Posted February 8, 2022 1 minute ago, patrick said: So true John. I panicked last week and ordered A12 before they sell out. An option for a second A55 would be to renumber it to one of the prototypes which had the CIE roundal and different placing of the numbers. I thought that very same thing too! Renumbering would probably be easiest by rubbing off the "2" in A12, or the second "5" of A55, and putting a "1" there - A11 or A51. 4 minutes ago, Garfield said: .....................and colourful language from the driver! 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
skinner75 Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 The Crossley's could've done with some of this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY1YndLmbXQ 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Mayner Posted February 9, 2022 Share Posted February 9, 2022 25 minutes ago, skinner75 said: The Crossley's could've done with some of this! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cY1YndLmbXQ Nothing better than the real thing! Nice "chuggy' sound. The WAGR seem to have overcome most of the problems BR and CIE experienced with their Metrovicks lasting in service with their Crossley engines until the late 1980s no clouds of filthy blue smoke! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 Hi everyone, And then there were three! A12 is now sold out, with limited stock of A55, A56 and A30 now remaining! Cheers! Fran 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Warbonnet Posted February 10, 2022 Author Share Posted February 10, 2022 3 hours ago, Fowler4f said: A55, A42, A30. Doh, sausage fingers on my part! 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 37 minutes ago, Warbonnet said: Doh, sausage fingers on my part! Mmmmmmhhh, sausages. Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
flange lubricator Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 44 minutes ago, Warbonnet said: Doh, sausage fingers on my part! as long as they are supertrain sausages with a black stripe 2 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted February 10, 2022 Share Posted February 10, 2022 14 minutes ago, flange lubricator said: as long as they are supertrain sausages with a black stripe Mmmmmmh, Superquinn sausages, even better..... 1 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colin_McLeod Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 The models under construction: The prototype under construction: (image from Facebook) 5 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Georgeconna Posted February 12, 2022 Share Posted February 12, 2022 On 24/1/2022 at 9:09 AM, Warbonnet said: Hi everyone, Whoosh! And just like that, 007 is gone! Just four class numbers from our A Class range remain, with A12 being the lowest stock wise. Browse what's left here: https://irishrailwaymodels.com/collections/a-class-locomotive/availability_in-stock? Cheers! Fran Just picked up 007 Marks in Cork! Sweet! and the Silver Jobbie. 8 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
DJ Dangerous Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Any chance of a light grey foam insert next time, lads??? The black doesn't display too well. Anybody have ideas on how to display the locos using the packaging? I'm playing with ideas, and have so far settled on the method to the right in the photo. And to the "trains are to be played with" brigade, pee off, I'm not interested, go get a job. 1 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
WRENNEIRE Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 Only way I could manage it DJ 1 4 Quote Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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