Vlak Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Any word if the 121s will be released before the end of the year? Quote
Noel Posted September 5, 2017 Posted September 5, 2017 Any word if the 121s will be released before the end of the year? Hi Vlak. MM advised me by email "I hope to have samples of 121 by year end. It will be produced in all 5 liveries". Been saving my modelling budget for these. Noel Quote
Noel Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Another year passes but unfortunately no sign of an MM 121 even in pre-production form making an appearance at Raheny. MM web site updated just last month makes no mention of it. I’m beginning to wonder if it might ever happen. Little to complain about perhaps given the superb MM/Bachmann baby GMs and MM 071 transformed the Irish hobby. Quote
Railer Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 37 minutes ago, Noel said: Another year passes but unfortunately no sign of an MM 121 even in pre-production form making an appearance at Raheny. MM web site updated just last month makes no mention of it. I’m beginning to wonder if it might ever happen. Little to complain about perhaps given the superb MM/Bachmann baby GMs and MM 071 transformed the Irish hobby. He's just waiting for the lads in Inchicore and the RPSI to finish off restoring 134. There's bet on which 121 will release first. 134 is due to haul it's first tour in RPSI ownership in March or April 2019. 2 Quote
Noel Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 3 hours ago, Railer said: He's just waiting for the lads in Inchicore and the RPSI to finish off restoring 134. There's bet on which 121 will release first. 134 is due to haul it's first tour in RPSI ownership in March or April 2019. Hope so. Otherwise 121 models may end up being produced in familiar 'Green' packaging from another stable. Or a 'two' pack consisting of a 121 and an A class. 1 Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Dont spend your money on Easter eggs next year Just sayin............ 2 Quote
Keitheg6 Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, Noel said: Hope so. Otherwise 121 models may end up being produced in familiar 'Green' packaging from another stable. Or a 'two' pack consisting of a 121 and an A class. Now a twin 121 and A class sounds like fun !! Quote
Noel Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 57 minutes ago, WRENNEIRE said: Dont spend your money on Easter eggs next year Just sayin............ Yes but folks have been ‘just sayin’ that for years now. Noise is easy, all that counts is delivering the goods. Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Nice sentiments Noel Why dont you take it on When you hear the facts about this project you will change your tune 4 Quote
Warbonnet Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 1 hour ago, WRENNEIRE said: Nice sentiments Noel Why dont you take it on When you hear the facts about this project you will change your tune Have to agree with this sentiment Dave, when you sit on this side of the ditch and you learn of the sheer level of work, detail, money and dedication required to do a model, it is only then you can fully appreciate what a herculean task it is, even if it's a humble wagon, let alone a loco with complex detail variations such as a 121. The projects are simply huge and need a large degree of practicality, and while I cannot (and would not) speak for Paddy, I'm sure he wants the project to market more than anyone. We can see that ourselves in IRM, with none of us having a day off from trains since we started, and there are four of us. Paddy is a one man band, and has a fantastic track record of locos that he has done himself. As you allude to, surprises can pop out of nowhere to delay everything (as we have seen with the Taras and our UK Cemflo wagons) and there will be seriously good reasons to explain these delays, that I have no doubt about. These kind of comments can be most discouraging sometimes, but I guess it's the modern age we live in. Thankfully we get overwhelming support from customers and we are delighted to receive it as it motivates us to keep going. Cheers, Fran 8 Quote
RedRich Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 2 hours ago, Noel said: Yes but folks have been ‘just sayin’ that for years now. Noise is easy, all that counts is delivering the goods. This always comes to mind when I read these posts. Rich, 2 3 Quote
Broithe Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 I remain amazed that any of these things actually happen at all..... Go back twenty years and imagine telling people how it will be in 2018... 4 Quote
connollystn Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 The Class 121 had so many cosmetic changes I doubt that by the Irish Rail era any two locomotives looked the same. I think that production of the 121 model will be a herculean task. 1 Quote
Noel Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 4 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Nice sentiments Noel Why dont you take it on When you hear the facts about this project you will change your tune I hear you Dave, but it is a business after all rather than an altruistic operation. The "facts" are the private information of the business which has to manage its own affairs. Customers are focused on deliverables rather than stories how ever unexpected or surprising. I have been a very happy customer of MM, and expressed high praise for many of their past products, but is it not reasonable for "customers" to express disappointment when delivery expectations are not met by an extremely wide margin, especially when little information has been offered? By contrast IRM have been excellent at keeping customers in the loop and managing expectations should any issue occur or change in delivery schedules. I agree it is worthy for customers to praise excellent products and top quality service, but by the same token it seems reasonable for customers to be equally entitled to express disappointment when delivery schedules have not meet expectations. Anyway I'm happy to leave it there, and wish MM well in their future endeavours. I hope the 121 does come to market, proves successful for the business, and is enjoyed by their customers. 3 Quote
Tarabuses Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 I have to agree with Noel that all we are looking for is some communication with customers about a model that has been announced. No criticism of MM is inferred nor any underestimation of the considerable work involved in bringing the 121 project to fruition. A simple "the model has been delayed" would suffice if it was accompanied by a statement that the project was still progressing. 2 Quote
jhb171achill Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 I don’t care how long it takes, but I’ll be looking for one! 2 Quote
irishrail201 Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 Murphy came to Dromod to measure the cab we have, apparently it was different from the last drawings he had! I'd imagine from the constant rebuilding 2 Quote
JasonB Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 21 minutes ago, jhb171achill said: I don’t care how long it takes, but I’ll be looking for one! Spot on JB, they'll be well worth the wait no matter how long it takes. I know what I'm blowing my Confirmation money on when they finally arrive. 4 Quote
Broithe Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 (Secretly, I wouldn't mind it all slowing down a bit) 2 1 Quote
Broithe Posted October 25, 2018 Posted October 25, 2018 1 minute ago, DiveController said: You did not say that, Jim! I've been hacked! 2 Quote
chris Posted October 26, 2018 Posted October 26, 2018 (edited) 23 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: Dont spend your money on Easter eggs next year Just sayin............ Edited October 26, 2018 by chris 1 Quote
mphoey Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 Talking to paddy at the show he is optimistic we will see the 121 shortly I would be happy to wait a while to get a proper loco done then to go back to the days of a repainted class 33 with the likes of murphy models and now Irish railway models it wont be long till every loco wagon emu dmu and passenger carriage are produced for us all as time goes on 3 Quote
jhb171achill Posted January 1, 2019 Posted January 1, 2019 Anything Murphyish I have is real quality - I'm sure we won't have to worry on that score. With an A imminent, a C would be next and also without doubt we need RTR AEC cars and 80 class. These were the two "must-have" railcars for any layout wanting accuracy. 2 1 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 Slightly OT but having 3 part built 80 s , 2 XCastle/450 / A and C class in various states plus a resin 121 and a donor 141 then I would think these will a be RTR within a decade or so given my finishing rate.... Agreed it will be fun with the 121 when it comes - I might just have to have two and use my resin one on a push pull set with the loco as a dummy ! Robert Quote
ttc0169 Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 I spoke with Paddy Murphy at the Warley exhibition and he was confident that a 121 class locomotive would be available to purchase this Easter 2019. 2 Quote
Richard EH Posted January 2, 2019 Posted January 2, 2019 16 minutes ago, ttc0169 said: I spoke with Paddy Murphy at the Warley exhibition and he was confident that a 121 class locomotive would be available to purchase this Easter 2019. Better get saving then, I guess! Starting to become an expensive hobby....! Richard. 1 Quote
NIRCLASS80 Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Does anyone know if the Easter deadline is still hopeful? Quote
PJR Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Paddy is currently in China, so you never know...... 1 2 1 Quote
Noel Posted February 23, 2019 Posted February 23, 2019 Here's hoping! I have an insurance policy in case not as soon as we all hope. Quote
WRENNEIRE Posted April 10, 2019 Posted April 10, 2019 So I was talking to a man from Wexford St, just shooting the breeze He has met with a man from China recently It was in relation to the PCB board for the 121 So many small variants with lights on these locos They reckon they have sorted out the different configurations Should have a pre production sample in the next couple of months, hopefully by early June at the latest All things going well they will then go into full production and should be with us September/Early October He said I wasn't to tell anyone........ 2 3 3 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 Good news then ! PCB design is a quite an advanced affair with DCC considerations , stay alive capacitor and head lights and motor control - a big leap from just a few years ago. I have seen UK companies boards go from a few poor diodes to a slab of electronics that looks like a miniature city from the future. Given the power of mobile phones - more power than the lunar module I imagine the 121 board will be a complex bit of design and kit for our benefit. Off to start looking at ways to save up money for one of these, or may be two.- A good way to lose weight ! Robert 1 Quote
jhb171achill Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 14 hours ago, WRENNEIRE said: So I was talking to a man from Wexford St, just shooting the breeze He has met with a man from China recently....... He said I wasn't to tell anyone........ Your secret is entirely safe with all of us here...... 1 2 Quote
spudfan Posted April 11, 2019 Posted April 11, 2019 Wrenneire wrote "All things going well they will then go into full production and should be with us September/Early October" Should be enough time to get the wife into shape before she goes on EBAY. Sellers on EBAY always seem to exaggerate the condition of their items also some have a no returns policy. What can go wrong....? 1 2 Quote
Robert Shrives Posted April 12, 2019 Posted April 12, 2019 7 hours ago, spudfan said: Wrenneire wrote "All things going well they will then go into full production and should be with us September/Early October" Should be enough time to get the wife into shape before she goes on EBAY. Sellers on EBAY always seem to exaggerate the condition of their items also some have a no returns policy. What can go wrong....? You must like living dangerously but at least you will go out in style.. 2 Quote
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